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PostSubject: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:16 pm

Now that the Snob reviewed Cannibal Holocaust, let me get this question out of the way for all you exploitation fans.

And no, I have not seen any of them so I can't write my opinion here!
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:38 pm

LucasChad wrote:
Now that the Snob reviewed Cannibal Holocaust, let me get this question out of the way for all you exploitation fans.

And no, I have not seen any of them so I can't write my opinion here!

Sorry to be pretentious and pedantic, but in what sense 'worse'? As in how badly it was made, or how offensive it was?

Either way, I'm voting Cannibal for most offensive for obvious reasons. I think this quote from Wiki is more than enough:

While in the movie it appears that only six animals are killed, the scene depicting the monkey's death was shot twice, resulting in the death of two monkeys. Both of the animals were eaten by indigenous cast members (who consider monkey brains a delicacy)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Holocaust#Animal_cruelty
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:02 pm

I meant worse in entertainment value!
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:16 pm

LucasChad wrote:
I meant worse in entertainment value!

Haha brilliant!

Worst entertainment value I'd vote Porno Holocaust, not only because it isn't the type of film you can't watch with others, but also because its just plain badly made.

The primary reason Cannibal Holocaust is such a wild ride is because of its striking content and offensive theme. In films like A Serbian Film and The Human Centipede, they do well at the Box because of their premise. Its bizzare, and that's why people go to see it. Alongside this is shock value, the evil and new-found ideas of violence that enter your mind are entertaining and intriguing. That is to say, such films as Saw and Zombie Holocaust are also renown for their content. This content is the shock value which makes these films do so well.

Cannibal Holocaust, with not only has one hell of a premise, also has some of the most shocking content ever caught on film, and when we consider both these aspects for entertainment value, it's obvious why its so entertaining (To a specific crowd).

The premise is subtle like a punch in the face, and this is evident in the title. 'Cannibal' and 'Holocaust' scream offensive, and lay the foundation for an abstract film. At the time, it was new, and it goes without saying, that people have always enjoyed new content.

As for shocking content, the movie can not go any longer than five minutes without hurting or causing misery. Filmed by a sadist, scenes such as the impalement, and animal cruelty spread across the entire film, are a true anarchist's wet dream, depicting true horror, of a seemingly lost nature.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:45 pm

I love Cannibal Holocaust. Fantastic production, fantastic acting, fantastic (borderline genius) sountrack... I can go on and on, there's not a single thing that doesnt work in this feature of cinematic extremism galore.

10/10

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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:24 pm

LucasChad wrote:
Now that the Snob reviewed Cannibal Holocaust, let me get this question out of the way for all you exploitation fans.

And no, I have not seen any of them so I can't write my opinion here!

How can they even be compared?
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:07 pm

Cannibal Holocaust is generally considered to be a good movie...

I think everyone would choose Porno Holocaust. Even though Cannibal is more disturbing and is pretty unpleasant to sit through, Porno is so much worse and also so hard to sit through.


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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:37 am

I'd say Porno Holocaust is the less entertaining of the two. Say what you will about Cannibal Holocaust, at least it's not boring (if you think it is, then you've probably reached the point where you're just so jaded that you have to go out and reenact scenes from A Serbian Film irl just to get a rise).
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:34 pm

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I'd say Porno Holocaust is the less entertaining of the two. Say what you will about Cannibal Holocaust, at least it's not boring (if you think it is, then you've probably reached the point where you're just so jaded that you have to go out and reenact scenes from A Serbian Film irl just to get a rise).

This!
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:38 pm

The Dude wrote:
I'd say Porno Holocaust is the less entertaining of the two. Say what you will about Cannibal Holocaust, at least it's not boring (if you think it is, then you've probably reached the point where you're just so jaded that you have to go out and reenact scenes from A Serbian Film irl just to get a rise).

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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Sun May 01, 2011 12:27 am

Frank Rizzo wrote:
The Dude wrote:
I'd say Porno Holocaust is the less entertaining of the two. Say what you will about Cannibal Holocaust, at least it's not boring (if you think it is, then you've probably reached the point where you're just so jaded that you have to go out and reenact scenes from A Serbian Film irl just to get a rise).

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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Sun May 01, 2011 5:11 am

"Porno Holocaust" is a billion times worse. "Cannibal Holocaust" is legitimately a pretty good movie. "Porno Holocaust" doesn't work as either a porn or a horror film.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Sun May 01, 2011 5:26 am

Admin wrote:
"Porno Holocaust" is a billion times worse. "Cannibal Holocaust" is legitimately a pretty good movie. "Porno Holocaust" doesn't work as either a porn or a horror film.

Pretty much this!
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Sun May 01, 2011 12:29 pm

Trying to make a horror/porn hybrid film is kind of flawed to begin with, really. You really can't make a film that's simultaneously horrifying and titillating at the same time; the two qualities are almost on the opposite ends of the spectrum. True horror, in any form, means revulsion, be it from fear, shock or disgust. Therefore, you can't make a film that is effective both as horror and pornography as to do so would require you arouse and repulse at the same time. The inability to do so is one of the major reasons why films like Porno Holocaust and Emanuel and the Last Cannibals either fail to be arousing, fail to be horrifying, or, more commonly, fail in both respects because they try to move in opposite directions at the same time and consequently go nowhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Sun May 01, 2011 9:51 pm

Did Porno Holocaust try to take itself seriously? I haven't seen it, but even D'Amato had to get the insanity of the premise.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Sun May 01, 2011 9:58 pm

Mondo a Go-Go wrote:
Did Porno Holocaust try to take itself seriously? I haven't seen it, but even D'Amato had to get the insanity of the premise.

It seemed *to me anyway* that it was trying to take itself seriously...
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Mon May 02, 2011 2:07 am

Frank Rizzo wrote:
Mondo a Go-Go wrote:
Did Porno Holocaust try to take itself seriously? I haven't seen it, but even D'Amato had to get the insanity of the premise.

It seemed *to me anyway* that it was trying to take itself seriously...
As serious as a porn film can be, in any case.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is worse: Porno Holocaust or Cannibal Holocaust?   Mon May 02, 2011 3:20 am

The Dude wrote:
Frank Rizzo wrote:
Mondo a Go-Go wrote:
Did Porno Holocaust try to take itself seriously? I haven't seen it, but even D'Amato had to get the insanity of the premise.

It seemed *to me anyway* that it was trying to take itself seriously...
As serious as a porn film can be, in any case.

Exactly.

It just came off to me as "Oh man....this is porn *and* horror....we are so bad ass, and this movie is awesome!" rather then "Hey...let's just have fun, regardless of how bad this movie might be."
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